***Day Two using antibiotics
I can already see that the area is stating to heal up, and look better. The medications make me completley nauseous, but I think it’s worth it. The pain has drastically decreased , even without the pain killers .
***Bandage: Day two
My wound is still weeping, but it is more brown today than orange like it was yesterday. There is also specks of black mixed in there too.
jdeter Says:
“The instructions say start at the lowest strength. I started with 17% and I’m on my third treatment. It seems to be working well. I may move to the next level (25%) my next treatment. Beyond itching I have had no problems. I think when you use excessive strength is when you get into trouble – 2 beers is fine but 6 is to much. Like you said, it’s better to do more treatments at lower strength and not be in such a hurry. Eight layers your last treatment was to much.
For my money Nuviderm has been worth it.”
First, let me begin by saying that I’m glad to hear that you are having success with Nuviderm, and past the second application. Do you have any before or after pictures to show your success with the product?
I did post the directions under my first application post. No where in the directions does it say to start at the lowest strength. It says to do a patch test, which I did. My first application I did a little stronger than 50% which healed fine. The directions did say that one should maybe start with only one layer their first application, but than goes on to saying that if the area does not frost, to bump up the strength of the solution. Than I think what is really misleading, is that the directions say numerous times to not let the solution dry, and the keep the treated area wet. By keeping the area wet, wouldn’t that mean adding more layers? The lowest mixing instruction was for 23% also, and then it states that most people use 25%-70%. I know it’s rather simple to mix lesser strength than mentioned on the directions by adding more water, but why not state the lower strengths on the directions? I understand I put on many layers, but I figured I had couldn’t let the solution dry.
I could’ve taken the directions wrong, I am only human… But honestly, I feel the directions are too vague, contradicting, and somewhat confusing.
You mentioned swelling back on day 6 of the 1st treatment, and having to keep it elevated after the 2nd treatment, did you have swelling before going to the doctor? I had swelling yesterday after day 5 in treatment 1 that made walking pretty painful and had to elevate and ice just to make bearable. I am taking antibiotics and using colloidal silver bandages. There is no pain but a bit of swelling when I walk, no blisters or scabs due to the type of bandage I’m using, but really red on drip area, the source of my trouble I think.
L-
During my First application I elevated it too, but there was no pain at all. There was definite swelling well before I went to the doctor. I didn’t think much of it at first, but it wouldn’t go down, and the pain was just getting worse. How big of a drip area do you have, and where is it located? I dripped all around my ankle too my first application, but it seemed to heal up quicker and better than the rest did.
I need to post some photos, I don’t have a good one of the drip area but it is about 1/2 inch area right below the tattoo, and is redder and blistered more than the tattoo itself, and is located on the front of my shin near the place where your foot bends. I had no swelling this morning, but have a bit right now, but it does not hurt like yesterday. I’m not going to do a second treatment, and will continue with the antibiotics and treating it like an infected burn. I think the swelling is due to gravity and the fact that white and red blood cells are rushing to repair the damaged tissue. I haven’t heard of anyone else with the swelling. What did your doctor say about it? I am planning to visit my doctor friday. I’m sure he will give me a big lecture. I will be curious to see how things look after you heal, you said the nurse advised you of severe scar tissue, which by the way is really common with laser. In fact from other testimonials I’ve read laser sounds like a real nightmare, but I think you get antibiotics and stuff during your treatment to prevent infection. I’m sure I will end up scarring even with only one treatment.
I found some information on swelling:
Controlling Swelling
Cells and blood vessels contain fluids. When a burn occurs, fluid leaks (capillary permeability) out of the cells and blood vessels, and this fluid leak causes swelling. The swelling can be local – only around the area burned or systemic – throughout the entire body. The larger the burn, the more swelling usually occurs. Generally the symptoms of swelling are limited to the area of the burn itself, as long as the total burn is less than 25 percent TBSA or the patient is less than sixty years old. When the burn is larger or the patient is older, local reactions become systemic ones. If a patient suffered face burns, the eyes may swell shut, making it impossible for him to open his eyes. This can be scary for the patient as well as the family members because the burned person no longer looks the same. Fortunately, the leak usually begins to seal about twelve hours after the injury and becomes completely sealed after twenty-four hours. What this means is that the swelling will start to decrease in two to three days.
What is a bit scary about this TSA is that like other corrosive acids it seems to sink into the layers over a period of time after application, doing damage over several days. So I’m not sure why the solution would be sold in the 50% liquid form, seems like it should only come in the lowest dose possible, to avoid possible over use. Plus really the chemical water ratio mixing required seems to open up for easy mistakes as is the case for me.
L-
I agree with the gravity comment, being that we are treating a tattoo on our ankle, we really have gravity working against us, which only makes sense why there so much swelling, and pain. I agree that it should come pre-diluted. It may be a pain having to buy stronger solution if needed, but i think the hassle would be worth it if it would really decrease the chance of having to go through something like this. It might be a good idea to go to the doctor just to be on the safe side. I think that eventually your going to have to stop covering it, to let it scab and heal up, since those silver bandages, and silverdene are more for infection and doesnt allow the area to heal up like it normally would (my doctor just told me this) so that may be something to keep in mind as well.
Hey I just recently got a tattoo and I hate it.
I ordered nuviderm .. so tell me does it actually work?? and is it really that painful and what should i know about it before i use it??
thanks so much
i have just a simple black outlined tattoo. do you think it will be easier to remove? how much does it hurt? i have a low tolerance to pain lol
Perhaps we should soak a washcloth with warm water and lay it over the nuviderm treated area to keep it from drying rather than applying more layers.